Has Sticky Fingaz...
An Interview with Kirk "Sticky" Jones
phone rang. A representative from Spike TV said, we've got
Sticky on the line for you. So hey, when you get a chance
to talk to the new Blade, you take it.
just another name for a guy who has worn many hats over
the years as Kirk Jones, Sticky Fingaz and occasionally
Onyx. Right now, there doesn't seem to be anything the guy
can't do, except maybe wipe out all the vampires in the
world, because then he wouldn't have a series.
him Sticky, I was told. So I did, and we had a good time,
though by the time he got to me he'd been doing over eight
hours of interviews. He was still gracious for the obvious
What attracted you to the Blade character in the first place?
Jones: Everything. I mean, I've been a fan since the
comic books, you know what I mean? First of all, he's a
black superhero and I think we need more of those. I jumped
on the opportunity to play a black superhero.
He's just cool
as hell. He's one of the coolest superheroes in the game.
McCaw: Do you go back to the Tomb of Dracula
Jones: No, I think it was after that.
McCaw: What's been the coolest part about actually
being Blade for you?
I think the wire work. They put a harness on you, which
crunches your nuts up a little, but they attach the wire
to you and you get to fly across the room at twenty-five
feet in the air. It's incredible.
And that was
so ill because I'd never done that before. It was new to
McCaw: Did you have to do a lot of training
for the fight scenes?
Jones: Yeah, I had to do a lot of training. But you
know, it's nothing because I'm a physical person. I've been
in training my whole life.
McCaw: How much are you influenced by Wesley
Snipes' interpretation of the role?
Jones: I've been approaching it from the ground up.
What I'm saying is, yeah, people wonder. But first of all,
I enjoyed all three of the movies. I enjoyed Wesley Snipes'
performance, so I'm not really subtracting anything from
it. I'm just adding things to it.
his own look.
McCaw: You seem to allow a couple more smiles
than Wesley did, especially in the last movie. Do you ever
want Blade to lighten up a bit?
Jones: Yeah. You say I smile more than he did? He's
half-vampire and half-human. I'm embracing both sides, the
human side as well.
You know, he
does have a sense of humor. He does love his job. He actually
enjoys killing vampires. It's not like he always does it
angrily. Sometimes he enjoys it.
McCaw: Where do you want Blade to go? What
future do you want him to have?
Jones: Well, I just want him to be well-rounded. I want
people to know his backstory, his front story, his current
story. I just want people to really get into the character.
On a series
like this, it's a lot of action, but to compel people to
come back every week, I don't think the action is going
to do it. The character is going to do it. The character
has to be deep, have depth to it.
It can't just
be a mean face and he kills vampires every second and that's
it. He has to have some kind of substance.
McCaw: Do you think that growth is happening?
Have you done all thirteen episodes?
Jones: No, actually we're on number twelve right now.
Actually, the episodes get better and better as we go along.
You saw the pilot, right?
McCaw: Yes, I did.
Jones: I think my performance gets better after the
pilot. I think I married the character totally. I get the
perfect voice and everything.
I think with
the pilot, I was just getting into it. We just did the honeymoon.
By episode three, now we're living together and everything,
you know what I mean? We're learning each other's habits,
so now it's natural.
By episode five
and six, we've been together for five years already. We
got kids and a white picket fence and a dog. By episode
twelve, we're experimenting. We're inviting other couples
into the bedroom and everything, you know?
McCaw: Okay, Blade is kinky. It's hard to imagine
him with a white picket fence. But is that something he
wants? Does Blade want a normal life?
Jones: Yeah, he wants a normal life. But he's accepted
that this is his life, this is his calling. He's the special
Daywalker. It's his calling to kill all these vampires.
Humans, to vampires,
are food. So Blade is like a vegetarian.
McCaw: Had you read any of (show creator/writer)
David S. Goyer's or (writer) Geoff Johns' comics before
you got involved?
Jones: Well, I was definitely a fan. See, I'm a Marvel
fan. And Geoff Johns writes for DC. He did a great thing,
bringing Green Lantern back and all that, you know what
I mean? He's on JSA.
He's a great
guy and his work is spectacular, but my comic book company
is Marvel, you know what I mean?
I think Marvel
should abduct him and bring him into their realm. They should
put him on X-Men or something.
McCaw: Well, they did have him on Avengers
for a while.
Jones: Avengers is cool. Now the two are together, did
you know that? In the Civil War. That's hot. I really liked
I'm a comic
book nut. I get my comics every Wednesday at this place
in L.A. called Comic Smash. I got my pull list. They pull
all my comics for me, because sometimes I can't come in
for a whole month. They hold every issue for me.
McCaw: You've got a hip-hop background. If
Blade recorded an album, what kind of music would it be,
and what would his rap name be?
Jones: Probably Daywalker. And it would be like hard
hip-hop mixed with thrash.
McCaw: Do you think you could improvise Blade's
rap for us?
Jones: Improvise Blade's rap for you? It would be like
"I wanna kill you!" (laughs) It would be kinda rock
and roll, you know? (Click
here for the .mp3 file of Blade's rap.)
He'd be a rock
star. Robbin' and on top of a cop car.
McCaw: If you could bring in any Marvel character
to be a guest star and take on Blade, who would it be?
Jones: Well, I'd have to beat the crap out of my favorite
character, which would be Logan.
McCaw: A Blade - Wolverine crossover…
Jones: That would be crazy. We'd sell a lot of UFC tickets
with that one.
Plus we both
got healing factors. So that would be a great fight right
McCaw: You're also a director. You've got a
couple of projects coming - Caught on Tape and A Day in
Jones: Yeah, both of them I wrote, produced and directed.
The interesting thing about these two movies is that all
of the dialogue is in rap, from beginning to end, every
ounce of it.
McCaw: Full-length features?
Jones: Yeah, full-length features, they're coming from
Lion's Gate. Theatrical release. It's not rappers. I got
a great cast, like Omar Epps, Michael Rapaport, Bokeem Woodbine,
Mekhi Pfifer, Viveca Fox, Cedric the Entertainer, Clarence
Williams III, Robert DeNiro's daughter Drena DeNiro. It's
insane. All these people are rapping the dialogue.
Have you ever
seen League of Extraordinary Gentlemen? The guy that
played the Invisible Man, Tony Curran? He's in the movie,
playing a doctor and he's rapping. I got Jane Fonda's
son Troy Garrity, he's rapping. I got an 80-year-old white
lady rapping. It's insane, yo.
McCaw: It's almost like a hip-hop opera.
Jones: In a sense. But it's got more action and drama.
Hip-hop opera sounds kind of softish to me.
McCaw: What's your favorite job? You're an
actor, a writer, a musician, a director…
Jones: My favorite job is creating. Just creating. Whatever
McCaw: Any final words to get people to watch
Jones: It only gets better as it goes on. I'm not just
going to say it's great because I'm in it. I've done a few
projects that I wasn't so proud of, like Leprechaun n
the Hood. I'm in that movie. I think that movie's the
worst movie on the planet.
people Blade is incredible. Trust me. It's not even
like television, it's like a movie. It's action, good acting,
drama, effects. And the episodes only get better as they
We've got incredible
guest stars like Bokeem Woodbine and Randy Quaid. Get this
- the original Shaft, Richard Roundtree, plays Blade's pops.
McCaw: What was that like for you?
Jones: I was like, "yo, I'm among greatness." We grew
up off of that.
McCaw: Take us out.
Jones: The one word song? Two words actually. "KILL
YOU!" That's going up on the internet, isn't it?
McCaw: Oh, yeah.
Blade runs Wednesday nights on Spike TV.